In this final episode of series 3, Chris and Ian are joined by first ever guest Kursty Groves to talk about her new book 'Workspace made easy' co-authored with Neil Usher. Neil's current work schedule sadly prevented him joining the discussion (although two past interviews with Ian still exist on Workplace Matters, way back from 2016 and 2018) so we spent a little time reflecting on his contribution to workplace knowledge and practice, before getting into the journey to this new book, and beyond, with Kursty.